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  An apostate goes public

  by Borges in

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  i mentioned in a thread some weeks ago ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/244078/1/first-public-talk-as-an-apostate ), that i was invited to give a talk at a symposium about cults.

  this will take place at the first weekend in may.. i'm going to talk about the difficulties you have to face when leaving the jw.

  yesterday i've got an another invitation to speak to a senior year class in a middle school.

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  Sounds great!
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  Is There Other Sites Many Members Are Bailing To? M.I.A JWN People, where did they go?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  since i joined the forum i noticed more than a few people have not been posting, what is going on?

  i received a couple of emails from other groups asking me to join their new forms with a promised technology, i wondered how they got my email address and thought it be strange.. .

  people during the first year of a great change might post daily to any support chat or message board they feel is going to aid them.

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  never a jw

  Missing Leolaia,

  If Simon doesn't bring her back I am leaving.... OK, OK I will reduce my visits only.
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  Sex before marriage would eliminate a lot of unhappy marriages in the Borg...

  by sinis in

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  sensible, safe sex, in my opinion, should be engaged in.

  because, as you get older and are ready to settle down, you will look at your potential sole mate, not for sexual reasons, but for what they have to offer mentally and if they are compatible.

  when religion restricts this, and yuo must marry to have sex, i believe that you doom a marriage at the outset, because these young folks marry out of lust, only to have the rose colored blinders pulled off later, and regret the entire arrangement... .

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  never a jw

  one of my JW nephews is 24 and never has kissed a girl, unless he is living a double life. The guy is good looking and girls do go after him. I am pretty sure he is heterosexual. The point is, he is wasting the best, most potent years of his life for submitting to the stupid morality of the bible and few other books. I agree with marriage as a contract to protect the offsprings, not to regulate the most joyous act two consenting humans can have (of course I make exception for chilfren).
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  Questions Regarding the New Light on the FDS

  by Ding in

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  it's my understanding that the old light regarding the faithful and discreet slave was that in 1918-1919 jesus appointed the faithful and discreet slave over all his house.. but under the new light, it's a two-stage process.. now the "truth" is that in 1919 jesus appointed the governing body to provide spiritual food in due season and the gb will only be placed in authority over his domestics during the great tribulation.. all of this is wt nonsense, but in order to get jws who believe this stuff to think about the implications, my questions are:.

  1. what will the future appointment authorize the governing body to do that is not yet authorized?.

  2. since under the old light the governing body has wrongly believed they have had this authority since 1919, doesn't this mean they have been wrongly exercising authority that jesus hasn't yet given them?.

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  never a jw

  Now I understand why many JW's are in the cleaning business. It's part of their spiritual heritage projected into their job.

  Ann,

  Are you implying that Jesus must get into a different line of work?
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  It's back to back to back

  by never a jw in

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  three hits in a row.

  2010 the overlapping generation.

  2011 when was ancient jerusalem destroyed.

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  On the Way OUt

  There was no change in 2011. However, the article When was ancient Jerusalem Destroyed? (defense of 607 BCE) was, IMHO, the article with the greateses number of objetionable statements and quotes. Misquoting, quoting out of context, outright lies were everywhere. I have done extensive study on that article and I am sure it takes the prize as the MOST INTELECTUALLY DISHONEST ARTICLE EVER.
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  It's back to back to back

  by never a jw in

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  three hits in a row.

  2010 the overlapping generation.

  2011 when was ancient jerusalem destroyed.

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  It's back to back to back

  by never a jw in

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  three hits in a row.

  2010 the overlapping generation.

  2011 when was ancient jerusalem destroyed.

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  Three hits in a row

  2010 The Overlapping Generation

  2011 When was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed

  2012 Who's is the FDS?

  If Ray Franz were alive, he would be envious of the Governing Body. They are doing a much better job at opening the eyes of JW's than he did with his book in the first three years....Nah. I think Carl Sagan on his quote referring to JW's was right:

  "... But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. wishful thinking.
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  just curious. How about blood?

  by never a jw in

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  i have never been a jw, but i have lived literally surrounded by them since i married my wife, almost 20 years ago.

  since i never raised a fuss before, i guess i was also brain-washed into thnking that their religion was harmless and the leaders were well intended.. i have been reading your comments for many months and have come to realize how harmful the religion is.

  your comments have been mostly about the pain inflicted by shunning, deception in the literature, and the views on higher education.

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  Thanks Heaven,

  I have seen the magazine cover. It's sickening to flaunt it as a badge of honor.

  Thanks Pterist.

  I hope more and more other countries take away the rights of irresponsible religious zealots. In economical and social issues I am a libertarian, but when it comes to children's well being and protection I am a tyrant.

  Scully,

  I am glad you made it. You are right, men have created laws and religions always to the detriment of women. I happen to be a man, but I am on your side. Men are pigs. I know it because I....was one....I think.
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  just curious. How about blood?

  by never a jw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have never been a jw, but i have lived literally surrounded by them since i married my wife, almost 20 years ago.

  since i never raised a fuss before, i guess i was also brain-washed into thnking that their religion was harmless and the leaders were well intended.. i have been reading your comments for many months and have come to realize how harmful the religion is.

  your comments have been mostly about the pain inflicted by shunning, deception in the literature, and the views on higher education.

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  never a jw

  Heaven, Frankiespin I am sorry about the unnecessary losses of your loved ones. I knew my question was going to be tough for you to write and for me to read. Your account and others help me galvanize my resolve to make my contribution to fight the irresponsible doctrines of the WT.
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  just curious. How about blood?

  by never a jw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have never been a jw, but i have lived literally surrounded by them since i married my wife, almost 20 years ago.

  since i never raised a fuss before, i guess i was also brain-washed into thnking that their religion was harmless and the leaders were well intended.. i have been reading your comments for many months and have come to realize how harmful the religion is.

  your comments have been mostly about the pain inflicted by shunning, deception in the literature, and the views on higher education.

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  Just sharing,

  I have a brother JW who years ago had a stomach ulcer that started bleeding fast after a very spicy/hot meal. I believe he aggravated the whole problem by taking some over-the-counter medicine that thinned his blood. He waited for about a day to get to the emergency room from the time he started bleeding. He, as expected, refused blood. "Thank God" for great doctors, medical advances, and a compassionate health system in the U.S. He was just as good as dead had it not been for the skills and prompt treatment of those "bastards, wicked sons of Satan". Incidentally, he didn't pay a penny even though he didn't have health insurance. Again, damn those wicked governments of these systems of things who dare pay for thousands of dollars for health care to save the lives of the "chosen ones"

  My brother and many JW's around the world had better survival chances, not thanks to Jehovah or the "JW hospital blood committee" (I forgot the name), but thanks to the very technology and higher education that they denigrate so much, and also, thanks to those evil sons/daughters of Satan (nurses, doctors and others who support government programs that provide the best care for free even when JW's make it unnecessarily more expensive)

  Thanks for sharing first hand accounts of the harm done by the WT, especially to young, innocent lives who are given no choice in life-and-death situations.